Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Obama's Targeted Killings of U.S. Citizens Needs Oversight-ACLU Video

Well I'll be. I'm in agreement with the ACLU on this one. Targeted drone killings, particularly of U.S. citizens, are a violation of due process guaranteed in our constitution. And it is a bad precedent. What is to stop the Chinese from sending drones over our airspace to eliminate a few annoying activists....

Here are the latest You Tube comments on the video:

30 minutes ago
slowthighs, I may be wrong but when the USA takes out a Terrorist we take out the terrorist that is a known terrorist as opposed to the actual terrorist that just blow up American targets. It is possible that there are innocents that could be killed. Now the recent case about taking out an actual American terrorist hiding in Yemen is a bit of a different story. With him the constitution comes in to play but enemies of the USA are not protected by the constitution as are the citizens of the USA.

2 hours ago
Serr8d, did you watch the video? You do realize that if America allows a small group of authorities to pass death sentences, in secret, without trial, without conviction, they can do the same to you, right? You do realize that if America abandons its core principles America won't even exist anymore, right? You do realize that the United States is nothing without the Constitution, right? You do realize that America would become a terrorist nation no better than Al Qaeda, right? Right? Right?

6 hours ago
Better to kill a terrorist with a drone than risk a squad or company of Marines to do the job. Our troops are much more valuable than any terrorist. You lefties know that, right? Right?

If the 'American Citizen' you whine for has fled justice and joined the ranks of the enemy, he's lost his civil rights, and deserves what he gets.

These whiners above should watch the Daniel Pearl video. Or 'Adopt a Terrorist'; take him home to live with your family.

10 hours ago
1:40 International law? There is no such thing! This video shows how idiotic the ACLU and the radical left have become. Pass out the kool-aid hippies, and you better take cover, the drone's after you next.

14 hours ago
@Ruthlesscritic This is an organic outgrowth of the Bush regime's doctrine of unlimited executive "war powers."

15 hours ago
"No person shall be held to answer for a capital ... crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; ... nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law..."

16 hours ago
Wow, logically I should say this is worse than anything the Bush administration did. I can't really feel that way, but still incredibly appalling. Imagine how far the next Bush-like administration will be able to take things now.

19 hours ago
for more background see Glenn Greenwald @ Salon: Lawsuit challenges Obama's power to kill citizens without due process ... Monday August 30, 2010 10:32 ET


WoFat said...

I'm for killing terrs by the use of drones or large blenders. Whatever. Just get it done.

Blaine said...

how would the sand people hi-jack a drone? If china has drones, would it be made out of plastic?
Can Drones save obama from suicide.

Chris W said...

Completely agree with you Opie. Where does the Constitution give the POTUS the power to be judge, jury and executioner?

Opus #6 said...

Wo, except when they label US terrorists because we believe in low taxes and limited government and the bill of rights/Constitution.

Opus #6 said...

Blaine, plastic! LOL!

Opus #6 said...

Chris W, my point exactly. There is nothing that qualifies Obama to act as judge, jury and executioner, and even less in the Constitution that qualifies him as such.

Teresa said...

I am in 100% agreement with you OPie!! This goes way beyond the scope of wartime powers. If our government thinks its acceptable to do this overseas what or who would stop them from doing this right here in the U.S. especially with knowing who this administration labels "extremists" or "terrorists"?

Bumps Stump said...

Opus . . Like you I am amazed to find myself even close to agreement with the ACLU. This time they have a point. I thought of the drones as a military weapon. I unconciously figured they would be carefully used in situations where innocent people were not present. Well, maybe I had it wrong. What exactly are the instructions for use? Who approves? What kind of situation is off limits? The usually stupid ACLU hints that drones can be used as a political weapon by non-military personel. I find this difficult to digest. Is it true? War creates deadly questions. Is one civilian worth 10,000 soldiers? How about only two soldiers? Where is the line drawn? By whom? For the first time in history the ACLU is raising legitimate common sense type questions. I'm listening.


Opus #6 said...

Bump, thanks for your thoughtful comment. I am of a mind that I want to stand for what is right by our country. I am coming to the conclusion that the emergency powers to write sweeping executive orders wielded by our presidents for the last century are a big mistake. We need the Constitution, we need its protections. All of us. Conservatives, moderates and liberals. No more warrantless search and seizure. No more targeted killings of citizens. No, no no! Our political leaders are never saints. They must have oversight. There is none now, that I can see.

Opus #6 said...

Teresa, there but for the grace of God...