Monday, May 31, 2010

Date Rape Drugs Equal Attempted (or real) Murder


This is no joking matter. Secretly drugging someone could end up killing them.

Before you take this personally, let me say that this rant is not directed at any of my regular readers. You guys/gals are great. However, there are those who read here by way of Google or odd links who need a little more education, apparently.

For example, my blog traffic doubled for a couple of days this week. Sitemeter showed that I had been linked on a forum called Adventure Rider, Ride the World. This is a motorcycling forum, on which there is one thread that has been going on for around 5 years, titled Toxic Britney. Lately the "riders" had been posting pictures of "toxic drunk chicks" and put up one of the gal I had here passed out in the bathroom, with a link to the Rape In Dubai post and the comment "you can take 'em whereever (sic) you find them". That was bad enough. Then 3 pages later, someone quotes that post along with the link and makes a comment that "the sale of roofies is going through the roof in Dubai."

Not funny.

Creepy.

Hey, you Jay Leno wannabe.  You think this is funny?  Do you know that some guys read this and act on it?  Do you really think it is OK to encourage guys to drug women without their consent/knowledge?  There is a legal term for that, by the way: "gross, or 'wicked' negligence".  I think every one who does it should be thrown in jail for attempted murder.

In fact, listen up any of you who think this is OK. Yeah, I'm talking to you, you RAT B@STARD! You impotent cretin. You sniveling pile of cowardly horse $hit. You cheap-@$$ $on of a B*TCH. Go to Nevada and buy a WHORE. Leave the little girls ALONE. Or is it that you get off on destroying good girls. Sweet girls who trust you enough to take a drink from you. They will never trust any man again after you are through with them. Does that make you happy?

Are you happy when the girl starts vomiting? How about when she defecates on herself. People do that before they die. Are you monitoring her vital signs every second, like an anesthesiologist is supposed to do? Are you shocked when you find she has stopped breathing and turned cold? Yes. You are a murderer. You worthless scum.

And if any ladies are still reading, here are some crime-fighting tips:
These odorless, tasteless drugs can be sprinkled into a woman's drink if she glances away for even a moment – or dripped from an eyedropper (even bartenders are often arrested).

• Don’t accept a drink from an open container or a stranger.
• Don’t leave your drink while dancing or playing pool.
• Don’t rely on a friend to watch your drink for you.
• Don’t think putting a napkin over your glass protects you from date rape drugs. Keep your glass in your hand at all times.

If you have any doubt, pour it out. And don't accept a cigarette – they, too, can be drugged...

Ms. Natalee Holloway made a common mistake: drinking without a sober girlfriend nearby to protect her.

• Beware of guys drinking. Alcohol (especially) and drugs weakened 90 percent of women date rape victims. Eat plenty of food while limiting drinks to one or two per hour.
• Go to parties with girlfriends, watch out for each other, and leave together – not with a new beau. At least one of you should be the "Sober Sister" to safeguard the others.
• If you’re alone, don’t announce that you’re walking home. Have taxi money for a ride home. If you, your date, a girlfriend, or if you see any woman exhibit any of the above date rape drugs symptoms (or too much alcohol), get help immediately and call 911 for the police.
More at Crime Safety Security dot com.

27 comments:

Catawissa Gazetteer said...

I'm going to make some broad strokes here but these are things that seem patently obvious to those of us of a certain age:

Girls, don't objectify yourselves. There is no excuse for a guy to abuse you in anyway. However, if you go out asking for it I can guarantee it will happen. Dress modestly instead of looking like you buy all your clothes at "Sluts 'R' Us". Don't act in a sexually aggressive manner such as showing your breasts to the world while screaming "Whoo Hoo!" Don't stick your tongue down another girls throat because, for some bizarre reason, you think it's cool to turn yourself into a porno caricature. MTV and Hip Hop culture should not be your moral guiding stars.

Most importantly, ask yourself, each and every time you are tempted to do something really, really stupid, "Would I do this in front of my Dad, or my brother?"

Guys, treat these girls as though they are your sister. Sure, she's drunk and willing and you haven't had any in awhile but zip it up and act like a man. You'll have a whole lot more respect for yourself in the morning. Our job is to protect the weak, not to take advantage of them. This is true across every part of our lives. We're men, that's what we do. And, if one of us has a moment of weakness and forgets this it's up to the rest of us to remind him, not to slap him on the back and congratulate him on his "conquest". Before you make a stupid decision ask yourself, "Would I want someone to do this to my Mother or my Sister?"

By the way guys, if you know some one that does drug a girl and then assaults her, call the cops. But before you do, if you know, without doubt, that the bastard raped someone, administer a little justice of your own.

The world will be a better place for it.

Trestin Meacham said...

It is creepy what people will do to try and get a laugh. The things that are promoted openly as acceptable humor would have never been accepted 20 years ago.

bluepitbull said...

Let's not forget that ALL of the media, even Fox News, objectifies women. Hell, look on Drudge and you see a picture of that harpy on Sex in the City grabbing her crotch.

So, I agree with the poster above. Women should not objectify themselves, but it is incumbent on the men to be demonstrative leaders for the next generation.

Linda said...

These are some good thoughts, and I am so glad I've lived a very sheltered life. My dad, many, many years ago, said the exact same things. We didn't have date rape drugs when I was a girl, but we did have some stupid women, and immoral men.

Girls, remember this!

Kristin said...

To any scum who would consider doing something like this:
The girl you're thinking of drugging is someone's daughter, sister, wife. Her bad decision to be out where you are does not give you license to take advantage of her.

Thank you, Opus for bring this topic up again.

LL said...

Use of date rape drugs is widespread.

It was recently made humorous in the movie "The Hangover" where guys used it on themselves. But as Opus #6 states, it's not a joke and can frequently lead to the death of the person involved as an overdose is fatal.

But since when did a rapist care if he also murdered his victim?

WoFat said...

There are a lot of people out there that ain't worth killin'. That includes date-rape-dopers.

fuzzys dad said...

Any scumbag that does this needs to be shot.

Opus #6 said...

Catawissa, girls do indeed need to watch their behavior. But nothing justifies drugging them and worse.

Opus #6 said...

Trestin, the serious side is that this sort of thing happens for real. All too often.

Opus #6 said...

Bluepit, old fashioned values were formed for a reason. People need these guidelines.

Opus #6 said...

Linda, times have changed. Our children have to contend with more than we did.

Opus #6 said...

Kristi, I hope the right people see this and take it to heart.

Opus #6 said...

LL, people should be cautious even when using these drugs on themselves for things such as insomnia. Too heavy of a sleep agent can be dangerous.

Opus #6 said...

Wofat, they all need to be locked up and kept away from our daughters.

Opus #6 said...

Fuzzy's dad, spoken like a dad.

Catawissa Gazetteer said...

You're right, Opus, nothing justifies drugging or doing anything else immoral and dangerous to anyone else, male or female. Any guy that does should be held accountable for his actions and prosecuted to the full extent of the law, after a thorough beating by all the girl's male relatives.

That being said, I believe, and I know this will sound unfair, that women have brought this on themselves by buying into the hyper-sexualized society we've created. Women make choices that put them in danger and then they seem surprised that something happened to them. Whether it's hanging out in a club where sexual depravity is just part and parcel of the evening or by dressing in ultra provocative clothing. By presenting themselves as sexual objects, through action and appearance, they increase many times over their chance of being assaulted.

Older women may do this by choice knowing full well the potential consequences of their actions. Young girls though, they are poorly equipped to handle the power that they have over men. They don't understand it's affect and they don't have any idea of the nature of the temptation they present to men, especially young men, full of testosterone and aggressive by nature.

Having raised a daughter I've experienced this first hand. I could not explain to her that the clothing she chose to wear and the life decisions she was making were setting her up for real danger. Her response was always that it was up to the guys not to be perverts. She would tell me that all her friends dressed this way and that it was just how it is. Of course, she ended up pregnant at 18, something her mother and I knew would happen.

In the end, women hold the power as far as sex goes. The woman either says yes or no, and unless the guy rapes her that's the end of the story, except for the whining and begging. Most young women that I see today are screaming yes to every guy they meet. They scream it through clothing, language, body movement, actions, tattoos and attitude. The hook up culture could never happen if girls didn't agree to it.

I'm 51 years old and have been married for 28 years. I've never been tempted to stray because I don't put myself into situations where the temptation exists. I'm no saint. Luckily I realize it and don't push it.

Rape is evil and never justified. That being said, many time the rape occurs in part because of the decisions made by the woman. I'm not trying to justify the actions of the rapist; hang the bastard. I'm just stating a plain yet very unpopular truth. There are consequences for how we choose to live our lives. Unfortunately, those consequences are not always survivable.

The_Kid said...

Opus, great analysis and advice, with the caveat that I've never been a young woman on the dating scene. Though it sounds about perfect. Women will spend some time on defense measures, and guarding one's drink seems job 1 with the kind of scum out there.

I understand what CG is talking about too. Commercials where some dude who just took viagra is sitting in a chair with a line of women who 'can't wait their turn..' What the hell? Girls abusing their bodies with tattoos, piercings, and Tramp Stamps - that overly large, meaningless tattoo on the lower back. Turns me right off personally, but these are all signals to predators that you are a willing victim. And maybe you are. It's your life, I'm not here to preach - do what you want - but if a you're a young woman who has a question about this kind of stuff, I think you've got your answers in the comments above and Opus's post. If it looks like a duck...

You'll never hook up with a man worth a damn with a body that looks like a city street.

Damn shame how things work really. There are maybe 1 in 2 million men who are interested in a wife and family at 18, yet every single mother (from the gitgo) has believed that this guy really loved her or that the baby would be an anchor to keep him around. It's not. It's a major deterrent to an 18 year old man who will likely tell you anything to get the sex then be on his way. I'm one in 2 million btw. I wasn't interested in marriage or family at 18 and I told her so when she brought it up, and she promptly found someone who told her they were. I heard from her later, about 7 years ago, and she had 4 husbands and 5 kids since.

Opus #6 said...

Cat, I can't disagree with that.

Opus #6 said...

Kid, that's like hiring the contractor with the cheapest bid. Not always the best.

They Say/We Say said...

Opus-you are exposing the Liberal modus operandi.
The La Cross young men were tried and convected by the LSM. The LSM-Seeing Themselves In The Mirror?
He bit her lips together to keep her from shouting out (Bubba).
She was taken to the Governors Hotel Room by a State Trooper,(Paula Jones).
Drag a $100 dollar bill through a trailer park, see how they chase after...(Bubba's Spokes person).
This is the way of the world, of the Elite.
I just posted the Diplomatic Immunity mind set for Sexual Harassment Players of the Top U.N. Officials. This is the way it is/has been for some time amongst the Liberals/Elitist!

Teresa said...

This an extremely thought provoking post! Thanks for bringing this up, and making us more aware of the dangers of dating, OPie.

Men must not take advantage of any girl no matter how they are dressed. Men must stop objectifying women! Women should not wear really high up mini-skirts, but that doesn't give guys any right to drug her or do even worse.
Sometimes people are naive, or callous and get themselves into troubled/tough situations that the girl can't get herself out of (unfortunately this has happened to me). Just because you meet someone through some person whom you trust doesn't mean that you can trust that other person (learned this the hard way also).

The problem is morals and God have been taken out of the equation in both the home and in schools. When these two thngs return, this will help address the important issues that go along with dating as well as other issues n our society.

Opus #6 said...

TSWS, it all starts with the dehumanizing objectification of women. After that is achieved, anything goes. :-(

Opus #6 said...

Teresa, I remember how each generation rails against the morals of the prior generation. Remember the bitter complaints about the Victorian era? And on and on with each generation. Throwing off the good sense of our forefathers to make our own mistakes. Well this whole thing has gone too far. Our little ones are in grave danger and we must take steps to educate them.

Red said...

I don't think kids today have more to contend with than I did or than my mother did. I just think that kids today have accepted a lower moral standard as the norm. We need to band together for our brothers and sisters even when it is unpopular and uncomfortable to remind each other that we represent something higher than our wants. It isn't 'old fashioned'. It's respect. It's character. It's moral fiber. You are known by your actions and those actions echo throughout time. People these days could stand to develop some shame.

Opus #6 said...

Red, I guess I'm older than you. When I was a kid, the raciest show on television was I Dream Of Jeannie. She was not allowed to show her belly button on TV. The fare was wholesome.

Nowadays, well you know. TV and movies are full of girls who wear too little and say and do too much.

Amusing Bunni said...

Hi Opie. Thanks for posting this, maybe some girl going out will read this and think about protecting herself. Any guy who takes advantage of any woman should be shot!