Monday, December 14, 2009

Government Healthcare Can Kill You

This article was pulled from the "Investor's Business Daily." It provides some very interesting statistics from a survey by the United Nations International Health Organization.

Percentage of men and women who survived a cancer five years after diagnosis:
U.S. 65%
England 46%
Canada 42%

Percentage of patients diagnosed with diabetes who received treatment within six months:
U.S. 93%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage of seniors needing hip replacement who received it within six months:
U.S. 90%
England 15%
Canada 43%

Percentage referred to a medical specialist who see one within one month:
U.S. 77%
England 40%
Canada 43%

Number of MRI scanners (a prime diagnostic tool) per million people:
U.S. 71
England 14
Canada 18

Percentage of seniors (65+), with low income, who say they are in "excellent health":
U.S. 12%
England 2%
Canada 6%

I don't know about you, but I don't want "Universal Healthcare" comparable to England or Canada .

Moreover, it was Sen. Harry Reid who said, "Elderly Americans must learn to accept the inconveniences of old age."

Hat Tip Wofat.

The reason this is still a problem in the Reidcare and Pelosicare plans, is that even without a "public option" there will still be government employees deciding who gets what treatments when.


CambridgeLady said...

I will have to look at the source of these stats but I find them somewhat surprising.

The cancer statistic seems very low for England. Does the US statistic include in the denominator all the people who died before they even got to be diagnosed? (ie the people who don't have enough health insurance to cover cancer testing?)

I know a number of seniors with diabetes - none of them had to wait more than a couple of weeks after diagnosis to start on a course of treatment.

Hip replacements - not sure about this one. My Mum had two hip replacements, one very promptly, the second was delayed. She was always mobile though and on good pain relief.

Referrals - seems a bit low for England. Waiting times have been substantially reduced in the last few years.

MRI scanners - maybe the numbers are not so impressive to the millions in the US who can't even get to be scanned because they have no coverage?

Seniors - well I'd say the 60- and 70- somethings in the UK have never been fitter. But I'd like there to be better care for patients with dementia and the extremely elderly who need full time care. That is an area where there is a shortfall IMO.

Life expectancy and infant mortality rates are often quoted as being better in the UK than in the USA.

This isn't really a points scoring exercise though ..... I just hope your government can eventually come up with a solution that will satisfy the vast majority of Americans.

Snarky Basterd said...

Sharing the wealth never has been about increasing standards or care. It's always about dragging those who have down to the level of those who do not. The American people get that ... does Congress?

Teresa said...

These are very revealing statistics. The United States provides much better quality of care than any other place in the world. But, Reid wants us to follow failed health models, or inferior health models than ours. Maybe, Harry Reid could make some personal sacrifices for the rest of us, and that be the American people's Christmas present?

I will be passing this article along.

fuzzys dad said...

Hands off our health care

Amusing Bunni said...

We are doing the best with health care and cures as it is now, Opie. Thanks for posting so people can see the facts. If the reid and lousy care gets passed...we'll be lucky to live past 55.

I couldn't believe that crap reid said today...he is exhibiting untreated dementia and senility!

Take care and I'm thinking of you. I have really cute vids, very kid friendly, over my way to cheer you.

LL said...

Reid is comfortable throwing aging Americans under the bus because he won't be subject to ObamaCare.

Additionally, his political career has made him a millionaire many times over. So he could afford to pay for the best of care -- even if he didn't have his elitist legislator healthcare package.

Just a conservative girl said...

The weather has warmed up here, so I will be going to the rally tomorrow. Grace will sleep through most of it. I will let you know how it goes.

And, yes the mortality rates are higher in the UK than the US. But, in the UK babies that die in first three days after birth are not counted in thier rates. Most babies that do pass, will do so in the first three days. Also the US rates include gunshot victims and car accidents (Which we have much higher rates of both compared to the rest of the industrialized world). So the numbers are skewed. If you look just at medical rates, our life expectancy rates are higher. I have a friend who is a RN and did some research on this topic. The WHO is a left leaning organization (shocker, I know) that tends to paint the US in a bad light.

Hubby grew up in the UK, he says that for major illnesses the health system is better, in the sense that you won't go broke, but for minor illnesses it stinks.

Mark said...

I totally agreed with your point, Universal healthcare supporters are the people who have no healthcare, and expect everyone else to provide them with it.



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CambridgeLady said...

Let me first thank you Opus for publishing my comment. It is good that you allow all voices to have a say.

All my American friends presently have access to health insurance so if I’m honest it doesn’t impact on my life whichever path the USA takes here. But it does annoy me to read the constant slagging off of Britain’s National Health Service by people who have never even lived in the UK – it really is an amazing service that so many of my countrymen are deeply grateful to have. (And if you don't like it you can take out private insurance - freedom of choice, brilliant!!)

I have a degree in Statistics so I am all too aware you can work with data to say whatever you want to say. I am always suspicious of stats like those in this post because I wonder if we really are comparing like with like, as Conservative Girl points out.

I think the NHS provides a good-to-excellent service in most areas for ALL people in the UK. Primary care is also very good:

I hope this issue is resolved soon .... for ALL Americans, not just the lucky ones who can afford health insurance.